Ferrari California, CTS-V Record, Audi R8 V10, McLaren P11, and 9FF GT9...DEBATE! - Garage419

dude whers the new episode? i want to see you pounding on that Cayenne....

It's a shame that Ferrari will build their new California with a hardtop. As you said it it's all about saving weight and gas to make it more sportier but a hardtop is a lot heavier than a softtop. Compare the weights of the BMW Z4 and the Mercedes Benz SLK and you will see it.
Only thing is that a hardtop makes the car with roof closed much more stiffer.

yeah i was thinking that myself CoolBreeze, but then again the viper isnt the best handling car in the world, even for the most professional drivers its a hand full so i wouldnt be too surprised if those lap times were from the 600hp version. 

Spinelli, 
I still miss the old Jalopnik podcasts you used to do with that guy from TTAC. Glad to see you're still talking cars.

About the CTS-V, 
When they say that it has the same lap time as the Dodge Viper I am curious if its the original 500ish hp SRT-10 or the newer 600hp version. Either way it's impressive but it seems ridiculous that any sedan... let alone a Cadillac that is down on hp compared to the 600hp viper (assuming GM isn't up to their old tricks) can be just as fast. And thats coming from a huge GM fan.

If the CTS-V really is faster than a 600hp viper than the mustang and challenger won't stand a chance when the LSA (or even LS8) gets dropped in the Top Dog Camaro.

Then again they will have enough problems taking out the base +300hp V6 version that's expected to weight about 3500lbs. 

 

The R8's V10 is suppposed to be a development of the current V8 and as such not related to the lamborghini motor.

Speed Racer did u mean 2 say 240mph or did u really mean 140mph??? cuz thats not really an accomplishment i'm sorry to say. i did 170mph down the 29 in sliverspring in a mod'd supra 2 years ago when i was 17, and i've done 130 in a mazda 5 {five speed} may times ova and that thing is no sports car let along an exotic. i've even gotten up 2, 110 in a prius, a prius dude, so to get a VEYRON!!, a car that can do ova 240 only up 2, 140 is pretty lame in my book. let me in that thing and i promise u 200mph at lthe very least even on public roads.

TT V8 R8, i've been debating that with my friends for a while, y not just do a super charged R8 or a twinturbo version, i know thats what i'd do if i got an R8 and wanted more power.  Ferrari California, well i have to say i like the styling although it sort of "borrows" some ques off the ISF and the 8C i like it, the hood is kinda lame but then again it might look kooler in person, from the drawing tho i'd do a way with that hood and have something like the 599 GTB has. i saw the video on the CTS-V lap, pretty kool c'n as the car used was an automatic and it was on stock tires. deff didnt expect that. i was wondering about the 9ff thing myself. i think i touched on my issues with that thing a lil bit on FLD. firstly can it go for the prodution car record when it more of a tunned production car???  and secondly like i said about the SSC, if ur ride isnt up 2 the standard or the check lists the veyron has, u cant really compare it 2 the veyron. i've even heard one of the SSC guys sort of point out the fact that they dont really compare them selfs to the veyron, cuz besides speed the 2 cars r very different.  well as always good show. cznt wait for thursday

As a person who lost out on a GT500 and in the end glad of the fools who paid for two or more of them each, I thought I would be smart this time and put down a deposit with some hard guaranties. Now they go and show the world how damm good its gonna be, and take away my stealth. 

Good job GM, you are about to get my first $ since the early 80's. I sort of assume that was the plan right?

Matt, not to be a stickler but Maserati does not make a car called a "Cambiocorsa" that is a transmission option, a la " Ferrari F1 6speed", they do however make the GranTurisimo and the Quattroporte.

Insideman.

* Doesnt Spinelli look identicle to Farah with hair?

I swear its just Mike with a wig!

Great show guys. The best one so far. Topics were relavant & interesting.

Congrats to Cadi! This aint my fathers Olds.

7:59! Holy shite. Miracle. Wonder how the Audi RS6 did at the ring?

The new Ferrari is drop dead georgeous!

McLaren has huge shoes to fill.

there is a video of the audi r8 v10 and the 9ff on youtube go check them out they are tight

...oh and nice episode. 'nuthin like good, 'ol fashion car talk on a rainy day.

254MPH?  Geez... I can barely drive the speed limit over here in CA during the day! (Although, I did get a Veyron up to 140 on the 405 once late at night, but that's a different story.)

Congrats to Cadillac.  You'd think they'd be better at telling the world they kicked the crap out of BMW!

When I think of Cadillac, I always think of my late Uncle Stone and his black Brougham. Never in my life would I think that Cadillac would actually create something that would throw down a time like that on the Nurburgring. 5 seconds slower than AN F430!?!?!!?!?!?! jeez....

...oh, I can personally attest to them being quite fast over the Verrazano Bridge as well... 

PRETTY GOOD SHOW THIS GO AROUND..

I find it funny thought, the garage 419 "logo" the trans am esque, firebird - fire breathing phoenix.. what have you. To me that symbolizes American Muscle, and for the most part i see speculation on alot of euro high horsepower supercar stuff.

i was just curious as to where the logo came from, because it is what pulled me to the show, i expected to see more American vehicles. The euro stuff is great ive had plenty of seat time in an 07 911 turbo, and a 98 carerra twin turbo, but it really does not float my boat.

And if your wondering the Carerra was one of the sweetest aftermarket rides ive been in.